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The result was delete.  Sandstein  20:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Afghan Jalebi (Ya Baba)

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Continuing from previous AfD, the closing admin in their no-consensus-note stated that "The fundamental debate here is about the quality of the sources, and neither side has made a convincing enough argument to negate the other side." I am hence providing a reference analysis here. Following reference analysis is based on references used in this revision (19:05, 28 September 2015) of the article. The song still fails WP:NSONG which states "Songs and singles are probably notable if they have been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label." (emphasis added). The following source analysis is provided in order to establish how the emphasized clauses of the notability guideline are not met.

Sr. No. Reference Source Source quality It says about the song Other notes
1 Asrar's career takes a Bollywood twist with Katrina's 'Afghan Jalebi' DAWN WP:RS "While the song doesn't show Asrar at his vocal best and Amitabh Bhattacharya's lyrics are a far throw from Asrar's witticism, it is yet another example of Bollywood's appreciation for Pakistani talent." Source talks about Asrar's other career.
2 Phantom: New song 'Afghan Jalebi' featuring Katrina Kaif is catchy as anything IBNLive WP:RS "The catchy beats instantly want to make you listen to the again and again." Source talk about the actress Kaif, credits people involved and the film in general.
3 'I did 'Afghan Jalebi' only because it did not objectify women:' Asrar Radioandmusic.com Non-RS - Interview of singer Asrar.
4 Afghan Jalebi from Phantom: Watch Katrina Kaif's shamsheer nigahein, chabook si adaayein India Today WP:RS - Source credits people involved.
5 Afghan Jalebi (Ya Baba) Youtube WP:PRIMARY - Video of the song
6 Now, time for Afghan Jalebi Tribune India WP:RS - Source credits people involved.
7 VIDEO: 'चिकनी-चमेली' और 'शीला' के बाद अब 'अफगान जलेबी' बनीं कटरीना कैफ! ABP News (Hindi language) WP:RS - Source credits people involved. More stress on Kaif's looks, notes few dialogues of the film.
8 VIDEO: कतरिनाचं नवं गाणं आणि 'फँटम'चा कडक ट्रेलर ABP Majha (Marathi language) WP:RS - Source credits people involved. More or less similar to Source 7, but in Marathi language this time.
9 Afghan Jalebi (Ya Baba) BBC.co.uk WP:RS - Blank. Plays 30 sec audio snippet of the song.
10 Phantom's First Song 'Afghan Jalebi' Is Out And Katrina Kaif Could Not Look More Sultry! India Times WP:RS - That’s all the whole "article" says: "We got to see the trailer of Kabir Khan's Phantom recently, and now the first track of the movie is out as well. Called 'Afghan Jalebi', this one's a promotional track and features Katrina Kaif in a super sultry avatar! A must watch!"
11 The Official Asian Download Chart BBC.co.uk ?
Not listed on WP: CHART		 - About chart says: “The Official Asian Download Chart is compiled by the Official Charts Company from UK sales data measured across a 7 day period from panel of more than 25 digital retailers”
12 Mirchi Top 20 Radio Mirchi ?
Not listed on WP: CHART		 - The website has no information about how the chart is compiled.
13 Katrina Kaif on Skipping the Dancing in 'Phantom' Song 'Afghan Jalebi' India-West WP:RS - Kaif talks about not dancing in the song.
14 [1] bollymeaning.com Non-RS - Gives English translation and Hindi Romanization of song's lyrics
15 [2] englishdekho.com Non-RS - Used in article to give meaning of Hindi word Jalebi.
16 Phantom song ‘Afghan Jalebi’ is average, watch it only for smoking hot Katrina Kaif Indian Express WP:RS "Its lyrics are ‘Main teri chugli karunga’ which one wouldn’t want to sing at all." Source credits people involved.
17 Phantom's 'Afghan Jalebi...' song: All about Katrina's smoking hot looks The Times of India WP:RS "The song is its catchy beats, while some unwanted lyrics could have been avoided" Source credits people involved.
§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Deletion essay says "Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints." I had asked the closing admin to reopen the first AfD in order to post this. But he didn't reply my post. Hence the new AfD. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:54, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Best way was to go for Wikipedia:Deletion review. Renominating article for deletion within 1 month is really not worth, its more like wasting time of the community and involved editors. Anyway, I have given my opinion regarding validity of this AfD, closing admin will decide rest of the things, I'm done with this AfD. Best Luck. --Human3015TALK  11:12, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
DRV is also dealt by community and "wasting time" would happen there too. And DRVs are meant to reconsider the "decision" and not when newer arguments are made. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:34, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I have no idea why it was not deleted before, there seems to be almost no detailed mention of this in any RS. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 06:33, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails WP:NSONGS per the reference analyses table. Faizan (talk) 07:19, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I think some people will not die with peace unless this article will get deleted. I propose to delete this article because I don't want that above hounder's soul to hound me sometime in future if this article remains on Wikipedia. Hounding on Wikipedia is acceptable but I can't afford soul of these people in future, so it will be better to delete this article so that these people can die in peace in future and their soul will not hound me. Hope so. I request to closing admin to delete this article and liberate some souls. Actually I don't want this headache anymore, if this AfD closed as "no consensus" or "keep" then above hounders will again nominate it for deletion after 2-3 months so it will be better to delete it now and liberate these innocent narrow minded people. I think liberation of souls is more important than this useless song article. --Human3015TALK  13:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh the high levels of melodrama! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:20, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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